The 2fort2furious Forum

I got involved with mapping for TF2 during this summer, when I wanted to block out my idea for a pl_swordvan map (which is still in the works, but it's going to take a very, very, VERY long time). I stumbled upon TF2maps.net when I did a Google search for a tf2 mapping forum. Their community as a whole is great; most of the higher-ups and seasoned users will gladly answer any questions you could have about mapping for TF2. However, there is one man/person/thing/abomination I would like to draw your attention too; the internet entity known as "Youme". Because I do not know his gender at the moment, I'll just refer to Youme as a male. Even though his avatar, I assume, does feature his face, it's too androgynous for me to interpret a gender.

How Youme personally affected me:

On tf2maps.net, there was a small mapping contest: create a small RED or BLU completely working spawn room, upload it, and the community would vote for a winner. I created an entry based off of a spawn roon in an early pre-alpha of my pl_swordvan map. I followed all of the rules and stipulations set by Youme (which can be seen here: http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=3840 ) . I was very disappointed and angry that I was disqualified due to a bullshit technicality. When I uploaded my map files to the tf2maps.net downloads page (as seen here: http://forums.tf2maps.net/showpost.php? . stcount=42 and can be downloaded here: http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php . amp;id=752 ), I did not create a direct link to the download on the tf2maps server, I merely explained "It's in the files list". I thought that would be sufficient, as TF2 mapping content that is talked about or featured on tf2maps.net can easily be hosted there, and it is frowned upon to use outside hosting services.

What I find very frustrating is the fact that he doesn't seem to be impartial. He created a spawn room package, available for download on tf2maps so that voters can download every map and judge them in one fell swoop. I was surprised that he included a disqualified user's work. The TF2maps user Shadowfield did not properly enable players to instantly switch classes inside of his spawn room, rendering his entry disqualified by Youme. However, his work is available in the package. I am trying to point out that I believe if a map has been disqualified, but is included in the voting package, EVERYONE who contributed should have their work in said package, or EVERYONE WHO WAS DISQUALIFIED should not be included in the package. I do not like this apparent favoritism. I do not at this point care about voting or winning, I just wanted to showcase my hard work.

And, at the time I'm writing this, my spawn room has been downloaded 6 times, and I have never downloaded it from tf2maps, which means that up to 6 unique people have downloaded it already, and, through their powers of common sense and deduction know where and how to download my files.

One of these people I know for sure who downloaded my completed spawn room from tf2maps is MangyCarface. He was a great help during my spawn room's mapping process. He told me that he did speak over Steam chat to Youme to allow my entry to be up for vote, as I had completed every task, but Youme would not budge (see here: http://forums.tf2maps.net/showpost.php? . ostcount=6 )

And too the other mappers who qualified, I wish you good luck. Not only can you create excellent spawn rooms anyone would be proud to feature, but you can also clear through the red tape. Good Luck!



F_M, feel free to put this in the shit post forum, I don't care. I'm too much of a pansy to write this anywhere near tf2maps.net. I thought some of us who've dealt with him could appreciate this.